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  • I need 1,000,000 Nokia 8910i cell phones. I need them to be
    non-branded phones with European specs. I am willing to pay
    $215/phone. I need them in the next 30 days (end of January 2005).
    Where can I buy these phones?


  • Hello steve71k-ga,
    Iam not sure how i came across your question but i share your frustration. Since i started selling mobiles phones six months back, trying to source them has been a nightmare. I have run into one conman after another. Iam based in the uk and have established various useful contacts round the world.
    If you are still having trouble sourcing your phones please get in touch and maybe we can work together to solve the problem. I dont have anystock of the Nokia 8910i but could inquire round to see if i can get it. Cheers


  • FYI...Joel Woodman does not live in New York State (he lives in Spain). His phone number does not work. He has been contacting me via e-mail and is asking me to use an online escrow service that is fake. There are a lot of scammers out there who make the claim they have the phones. This was a very difficult question to answer, that's why I paid the most you can pay. I had hoped that you could weed out all of the false leads.


  • The phones will be delivered to London, UK. The price I am looking for does not include the cost of shipping or tariffs.


  • By the way...I must have been in my pre-Xmas haze, but something that costs GBP 380 does not equal US $200. It actually costs US $730. I'm not sure that British web site is going to help. -steve71k


  • Thank you so much for your effort on this. I would be glad to discuss even buying 100,000 phones right now. I would gladly pay for the few dealers you have found right now that have phones available at my price point.


  • Resarcher was extremely helpful and provided me with a very thorough answer.


  • Thank you for clarifying what you meant by non-branded!

    I have left messages with two American dealers, but probably won?t hear back from anyone until next week. (At least that?s my expectation.)
    I had found three American companies, but one appears to be out of business, as my e-mails to them bounce back, and I've just discovered that their phone number is no longer working. So, I'm going to assume they're just not in business any longer.
    Btw, You and nametaken-ga will be able to communicate again, after my Answer is posted. Please bear in mind that GA rules forbid users from posting their real/full names, or their phone numbers and e-mail addresses. (nametaken-ga is, of course, welcome to post the name and contact information of a company that may be able to help you.)
    nancylynn-ga


  • Hi

    I recently purchased some phones form them and unfortunately these were seized by customs as fakes.....
    Of course I was assured that all was well with the product.

    Be carefull!
    GP


  • Sorry about not getting back to you sooner, I've been tied up with family stuff the last few days. I appreciate the additional information you have provided. I will be following up on all of your leads. One note...while I am unhappy with the initial results, I am not looking to get a refund from Google. I have never used this service before and even though I have not been successful yet, I am thnakful for the work you have done. I will definitely be letting you know how the leads you have provided work out! -Steve


  • I believe I have found sufficient information to post an answer. One of the best leads I?ve found expires today, Dec. 26, and another good lead expires on January 5. It?s going to be much more efficient if you contact these distributors, rather than waiting for me to relay information back and forth.
    I have found a large listing of 8910i distributors (including international) ? and most of these are very fresh leads, posted within the last few days and weeks ? but you have to register at the site (it?s free) in order to contact most of them.
    I actually got 128 matches at this directory, though of course, not all of them will be right in line with what you want (some sell refurbished). From what I can tell, these phones are non-branded and nearly all the sellers have noted the specs. (Most of these listings are for European specs.)
    Some international sellers at this site who have posted a price are listing at about $270 euro, which is about $360 USD. (And, btw, $360 is about the standard price I?ve been finding for the non-branded 8910i since I began researching your question.) But among these leads are two sellers whose prices are $140 and $220.
    But most of the sellers listed here haven?t listed a price, just noted that they?re ?competitive,? and that they prefer to be contacted directly to negotiate, or to give their price list.
    I also found another import/export directory site for cell phones, but there is a registration fee of $14.95 there.
    I think you?re going to end up having to buy from at least several dealers to get to a million units. You may be able to persuade some dealers to come down, so that you ultimately get to a million at what breaks down to $255 (or lower) each.
    ********************************************************************

    The directory I?m referring to is Alibaba, which lists manufacturers, suppliers, exporters, etc. Alibaba has been listed in ?Forbes ?Best of the Web?, 5 years in a row!? http://www.alibaba.com/

    Here?s Alibaba?s list of 8910i sellers:
    http://www.alibaba.com/bin/search?SearchText=Nokia+8910i&IndexArea=offer_en&Type=SALE&search_select=sell&imageField.x=27&imageField.y=13
    There is a contact person listed for each distributor. You can e-mail them directly from this site, once you?ve registered. Some sellers have also listed phone numbers and contact names.
    Among the more promising leads:

    Future Developers Pakistan:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12374234/Sell_Nokia_8910i_7_10_Days_Physical_120K_Total_Quantity.html They have 120,000 8910i phones and THEIR OFFER EXPIRES ON DECEMBER 26th.

    Tyce (UK):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12449315/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html
    Is selling model 8910i at $140 per unit, but I?m not sure that they have a large stock.
    Nevracom SRL (Romania):
    They have large stocks of 8910i, selling at $220 per unit. Offer Expires January 5th: http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12423078/Sell_Mobile_Phones_Supplier_Big_Stocks_.html ?8910i - on 220 USD/unit?

    Contact name: Silviu Roman
    ?Phone contact:
    0040-743-620455 or +40-743-620455?

    JND Marketing (UK):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12445153/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html
    ?We have on offer Nokia 8910i for $232 FCO from Taiwan. For production run.
    Must be 100K. . . . If you require different qty please email me. Made in Finland, logo free, SIM free,1 year Nokia warranty.?
    DTEAM (Germany):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12462654/Sell_Nokia_8910_3310.html
    Sells 8910is with steeper discounts the more you buy. If you purchase 300,000 units or more the price is $278/unit.
    So, if you can buy a large percentage from JND at $232, or from Tyce at $140, you may be able to spend more per phone at another dealer, like DTEAM, to get to 1 million units. You may also be able to persuade DTEAM to lower the price per phone since you?re going to be more than tripling that 300,000 order.
    OTHER LEADS FROM ALIBABA (PRICES NOT POSTED):

    XPLORER PACIFIC:
    http://anthonylck.trustpass.alibaba.com/offerdetail/12331587/Sell_font_color_red_Nokia_font_font_color_red_8910i_font_.html Their Web site:
    http://xplorerpacific.en.ec21.com/

    Paula & Brown
    ?Sell Brand New Nokia 8910i, Euro Spec ?:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12422072/Sell_Brand_New_Nokia_8910i_Euro_Spec.html
    Mobile Outlet (Germany):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12436890/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html

    Telefonica Movistar (Spain):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12405433/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html

    Well Faith International Industrial Limited (Finland):
    http://wellfaith.en.alibaba.com/

    Shenzhen Commworks Technology Development Co.,Ltd. (China):
    http://commworks.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50829009/Sell_Nokia_8910i_Brand_New.html
    ?SYNETRADE
    Sell Nokia 8910i Production (South Korea):
    NOKIA 8910i Production Run.
    MOQ:50k+?
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12464992/Sell_Nokia_8910i_Production.html

    CellTel Global Solutions LLC (USA, sells worldwide, so should have phones with appropriate specs): http://www.alibaba.com/trade/company/goto/10127000.html

    You can also post a ?Wanted? notice at Alibaba in hopes of making a match with a seller: http://nokia_8910i.importer.alibaba.com

    B2B Tradeholding Directory:

    This is the other large directory I found, ?Nokia 8910i --- US - New York Importers / Exporters - B2b Manufacturers Distributors / Wholesalers Trading?: http://b2b.tradeholding.com/default.cgi/action/viewtradeleads/tradeleadid/34251/subject/Nokia_8910i/
    You have to register at this import/export site, for a fee of $14.95, in order to explore it.
    At that page, see:? Import Offers to Buy to view demands or select Export Offers to Sell to contact suppliers? and click on those links. (Links will only work after you?ve registered.)
    OTHER LEADS:

    Karoun Trading Co., Germany
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12445256/Sell_Nokia_6230_8910i_7610.html
    They have 3,000 8910is available, but at $270 Euro, which is currently $365 in USD. Again, if you can get a bunch of phones cheaper somewhere else, you may be able to make up the volume differential here, even at a higher price.
    Computer & Telecommunications Manufacturer Directory - Suppliers ...
    ... Benzene International (Distributor/Wholesaler ... Nokia 8910i Qty: 10K & 50k in 4w weeks and 100k in 6 . . .? http://www.twaynet.com/trade/products/e04/15&offset=350

    ?Cheap Nokia 8910i Mobile Phones Listings?:
    http://www.cheap-uk-mobile-phones.co.uk/19/handsfree917.html

    You can find more leads at Exporters.com SG:
    http://www.importers.com.sg/search/search.asp?query=Nokia%208910i
    (They have a free trial membership.)

    At Exporters.com:
    http://www.importers.com.sg/showroom_item.asp?id=20616
    I found this Dresden, Germany, dealer, Mediagigant, which carries Nokia 8910i.
    Price is available upon inquiry, and I?m not sure of their stock size. You?ll have to contact this dealer: Tel:+493518473500
    Fax:+493518473292

    Mobilewel.com:
    ?Trading Refurbished Mobile Phones Trading Brand New Mobile Phones (Non-branded)?
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=40517
    Tel: 82-2-2189-5500 Fax: 82-2-558-3264
    Contact Person: Aram Namgung

    This lead may be worth mulling:
    MindNeurons Pte Ltd
    ?Our company is into Software exports and imports. Our company has capability to do production run for Sony P900, P910 and Nokia 8910i? http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=39999?
    ?Contact Person: Satheesh Kumar P
    Address: 20 Cecil Street #14-01 Equity Plaza Singapore - 049705
    Country: SINGAPORE
    Tel: 6592466691
    Fax: (65) 6438 2436?

    Here?s a lead from China, Leantech Co. Ltd:
    http://www.premierbc.com/lead.php?typeid=s34652&language=romanian
    ?Supply cheap non-branded new mobile, OEM mobile . . .We have an advantage of producing new low-end (simple) GSM mobile/ OEM mobile. You will find our price is the lowest and the quality is good.?
    Their posted e-mail address doesn?t work. Here?s their other contact info:
    ?Persoan? de contact: Shu Susan Pozitia: Marketing
    Companie: Leantech Co. Ltd mai multe anunturi...
    Adresa: 16F., World Trade Bldg., South Renming Rd. Oras: Shenzhen Tara: China Telefon: 86-755-25857652 Fax: 86-755-25857421?

    ALREADY CONTACTED:

    I have left phone messages with both of these companies and will let you know if/when I hear back from them:
    MoBiz non-branded phones:
    Address:
    119 Normandy Drive, Slidell, LA 70458
    Tel:1-866-587-5855
    Fax: 1-866-587-5855
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/showroom_item.asp?id=22801&v=rec

    Capital Blue
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=46550
    ?We buy and sell new and refurbished mobile phones. We are interested in Nokia models 6600 and 8910i . . . .? Tel: 212-561-0730
    Search Strings:
    "Nokia 8910i" +non-branded
    ?Nokia 8910i? AND ?non-branded?
    ?Nokia 8910i? AND ?non-branded? AND European
    ?Nokia distributors suppliers?
    ?Nokia 8910i distributors suppliers +large?

    LEADS RULED OUT:

    Should you come across them again, you can skip:

    Dutch Mobile

    MPN Wholesale

    I hope my research is of help to you. If you have trouble navigating any of these links, or if you require further assistance from me, please post a ?Request For Clarification? and I will be glad to help you.
    Good Luck,
    nancylynn-ga
    Google Answers Researcher


  • Do you have 8910i phones for sale?


  • They were another scammer.


  • Steve: In case you're getting lost in all the Clarifications (this page is a mess), I'll try posting this here: I have found a dealer for you!
    Distributor Joel Woodman (located in NY state) can supply you with one million 8910i Nokia phones "with european specs and not branded with any carrier name." They are priced at $140 each.
    He prefers that you contact him via Alibaba. *Make sure you are logged
    in* at Alibaba and go to:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12457575/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html
    and use the "Inquire Now" feature at bottom right to e-mail him. (You can also see his phone and fax numbers at the bottom of that page.)
    He is waiting to hear from you, so please contact him on Monday. You can say that Nancy from Google Answers referred you to him -- he and I have exchanged several e-mails. His terms are excellent and very fair. I think you're all set!


  • Hello steve71k-ga:

    Is $215 per phone an absolutely firm figure?

    So far, I've found one European dealer who sells the Nokia 8910i in lots of 100,000 at $220. (I've emailed him to see if he can provide you with up to 1 million units.)
    So far, that $220 price is the lowest I've found. Would you be willing to pay any more than that if this dealer can't sell you quite the volume you need, and I need to find additional dealers for you?
    I can contact some of those sellers to see if they'll bring down the price since you're buying in such large volume, but I just need to know what your absolute price ceiling is.
    Thanks.

    Best regards,
    nancylynn-ga
    Google Answers Researcher


  • Good News! I heard back from Mr. Woodman:

    "The phones are with european specs and not branded with any carrier name."
    He prefers that you contact him via Alibaba. Make sure you are logged in at Alibaba and go to: http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12457575/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html
    and use the "Inquire Now" feature at bottom right.

    Glad to know you are all set! Good luck with your business venture!


  • Steve:

    I'm sorry and concerned that you're having problems.

    Ailbaba, the site that I recommended, notes that its "Gold Suppliers and TrustPass members have completed an authentication and verification procedure conducted by third-party credit agencies."
    Running the search term "Nokia 8910i" at Alibaba brings up a list of sellers (you want the ads marked "Sell") at this page: http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?CategoryId=0&LimitCatId=0&StartSequence=0&MaxPage=10&IndexArea=offer_en&SearchText=8910i&PostTime=&Type=&Country=&Search.x=23&Search.y=6&OrinSearchText=&ShowCategoryNums=10&ShowCategoryStart=0
    Going through that, you can see logos for "Gold Suppliers" or "TrustPass" by the names of some dealers; that means those are sellers who have been verified and authenticated by Alibaba.
    Here are some "Gold Suppliers" who sell Nokia 8910i at Alibaba:

    http://wellfaith.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50696809/Sell_Mobile_Phone_Nokia_8910i.html
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12468758/8910i_Stock_Available_Jan_10_2005.html
    http://longxun.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50707829/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html

    http://hollysun.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50736750/Sell_Mobile_Phones_Nokia_8910i.html
    http://memorit.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50827555/Sell_Mobile_Phone_Nokia_8910i.html
    Some of those dealers have their own Web sites. Look at the bottom of each page for a Web site and/or phone number. For instance:
    Holly Sun:
    http://www.hollysun.com/
    And:
    Well-Faith:
    http://www.well-faith.com

    Also from my Answer: XPLORER PACIFIC: http://anthonylck.trustpass.alibaba.com/offerdetail/12331587/Sell_font_color_red_Nokia_font_font_color_red_8910i_font_.html Their Web site:
    http://xplorerpacific.en.ec21.com/
    Is a "TrustPass" seller, meaning they are verified.

    And:

    Shenzhen Commworks Technology Development Co.,Ltd. (China):
    http://commworks.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50829009/Sell_Nokia_8910i_Brand_New.html Is a Gold Supplier.

    I suggest you try and contact some of the *verified* (Gold Supplier or TrustPass) sellers at Alibaba. Remember: I came up with 128 matches, so you may have to do a lot of weeding there to get to verified sellers, and go through all the unverified sellers. (Again, look at the bottom of each page for a Web site/phone number, if you are unable to make contact via Alibaba.)
    I will contact Alibaba tomorrow on your behalf.

    Please tell me exactly what kinds of problems you're having: Did you register at Alibaba? If so, your inquiries should go directly to sellers via that site. Is that not happening? Or they're just not responding to inquiries made via Alibaba? Which of the sellers that you've contacted appear dubious?
    Please tell me as much as you can and I will report these concerns/problems to Alibaba. (I'm sure they would like to know of any problems.)
    Don't forget the option of posting a "Want" ad at Alibaba, noting the volume you need and your price. You should be able to attract dealers: http://nokia_8910i.importer.alibaba.com
    There you would list under "Buy."

    I also want to ask you about the other trading site I gave you:
    B2B Tradeholding Directory:
    http://b2b.tradeholding.com/default.cgi/action/viewtradeleads/tradeleadid/34251/subject/Nokia_8910i/
    Are you having trouble finding legitimate dealers there, too? If so, please tell me as much as you can and I will contact B2B on your behalf.
    Also, a commenter (in comments since deleted -- deleted because it turned out he was soliciting for his own company)seemed ready to make a deal with you. I'm assuming that didn't work out, then?


  • Nevracom (Romania):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12423078/Sell_Mobile_Phones_Supplier_Big_Stocks_.html which I'd e-mailed last week, wrote back to confirm their price on the 8910i is $220 USD. The phones are new, Euro specs, non-branded. Large orders: payments are made via bank services.
    Please Contact:
    Mr Silviu Roman
    E-mail: nevracom@yahoo.com
    Tel: 40-743-620455
    Fax: 40-743-620455
    He asks that you contact him by phone to discuss details.


  • Don't worry about the delay in responding to me. I am thrilled that you have found dealers that I can work with. I hope the new price point ($255) helps. I look forward to reading what you post.
    By the way, I hope the bad weather is not affecting you too badly. Please take care. Have a wonderful holiday season!


  • What port of delivery or city of delivery?? Does the price include tariffs and shipping??


  • Here are two more *verified* dealers that can meet your needs within your price range:
    DRAGON-INN Communication Co Ltd., Hong Kong
    http://www.alibaba.com/trade/offer/detail/12233264.html
    a "TrustPass" seller (meaning they are outside mainland China and have been verified by a credit rating agency for Alibaba), can provide the phones, in your price range, "with European specs, and not branded with any carrier name." Contact person is Mr. Michael Wong:
    E-mail: michael@cdma133.com

    And:

    Communication World International CO., LTD
    http://cworld.en.alibaba.com
    which is a "Gold Supplier" (that is, they're in mainland China and have been verified by a credit rating agency for Alibaba), wrote me back.
    They have the 8910i in your price range and can sell to you "in any quantity." The phones are non-branded, and you can choose the specs.
    Additional Contact Information:
    Tel: 86-755-83926608
    Fax: 86-755-83926608
    Business E-mail: info@cworldintl.com
    Websites:
    http://philip215.en.ec21.com
    http://www.cworldintl.com

    In both cases, you can tell them that Nancy from Google Answers referred you.


  • I have talked to my partner and we can now pay $255 for phones. I hope this opens up the number of available opportunities.


  • Well, we?d better dial back on our enthusiasm -- at least for the moment.

    I?m afraid I?m running into problems. Some of the sellers I?ve found are selling well above $255. Also, due to language problems on foreign sites (with just some words translated into English), I can?t be certain that some of the sellers I found earlier are indeed selling *non-branded.*
    For instance, the best lead I?ve found so far is this one:

    Netherlands-based dealer Dutch Mobile World sells in lots of 100,000 units at $220 each, Euro specs: http://www.premierbc.com/lead.php?typeid=s34009&language=romanian
    (Scroll about halfway down the page.)
    Company: Dutch Mobile World
    Contact: Mark Janssen
    Phone: 0031614271600
    E-mail: mob_mark@hotmail.com

    That image you see on that Web site appears branded, but I?m wondering if this image of the Nokia 8910i (one of my co-workers thinks that image ?was lifted from a distributor?s site?) is merely being used as an illustration; it?s possible Dutch Mobile World may actually sell non-branded.
    My coworker and friend, Scriptor-ga, kindly double-checked the Dutch phone directory on our behalf, and the street address listed for that dealer ? well, it turns out there isn?t actually a Langeweg Street in the town of Maastricht! (That could be the fault of the Web site that listed the dealer?s address ? it could be their error. But it?s puzzling.)
    Also, I e-mailed this dealer yesterday, but haven?t heard back. But that could be because he?s overwhelmed with business calls, or because he's taking time off for the Xmas holiday. If you want, you can try calling him at the number listed above.
    Meanwhile, I will try calling a dealer in California (my e-mail to them was returned as undeliverable), which advertises the Nokia 8910i, to ensure that it is non-branded and has Euro specs, and to see if they?ll come down in their advertised price.
    I will also call a dealership I found in Louisiana that sells non-branded cell phones to see if they have the non-branded Nokia 8910i, find out in what volume they sell, and their price. And there's a South Carolina dealer I can call tomorrow, too, to see if they carry non-brand 8910i.
    I have also found some international dealers (including one in China and one in Korea that specialize in non-branded phones), but I either can?t find e-mail addresses for them ? or my e-mails to them are being returned to me.
    Adding to the frustration: Some note they sell non-branded phones, but don?t mention specific brands. Others mention the Nokia 8910i, but don?t mention if it?s non-branded.
    So, I'll try calling those American dealers tomorrow on the hope they?re open for business Christmas Eve.
    I?m sorry we?ve hit this snag, but I feel uncomfortable listing companies for you -- as an Answer -- that require international phone calls, without my being certain that they have just what you want at the price you want. But since Dutch Mobile World is right on-target for your price range, they may be worth the gamble of a call.
    I'll be sure to post tomorrow to tell you what I found out from the American dealers.
    Regards,
    nancylynn-ga


  • Hi Steve:

    Yes, I am specifying to dealers when I contact them that these must be *non-branded* phones with Euro specs.
    Unfortunately, I'm not finding a lot of dealers, but I have found a couple who sell in very large volume.
    But with Xmas now upon us, I may not hear back from them until early next week.

    nancylynn-ga


  • So you know, I have spent an enourmous amount of time looking into the leads you provided. I have also spent a lot of time on alibaba.com and the other sites you led me to. In each case, the leads turn out to be fake or they are unwilling to sell the phones at my price. The US $255 price per unit is a big hurdle. By the way, the guy who posted a comment was trying to solicit me, but it is turning out to be a false lead.


  • To send you off into the New Year with some upbeat news: I heard back from a seller I'd recommended to you. He can provide you with one million 8910i phones at $140 each.
    In my inquiry to him I had noted European specs, but I neglected to ask him if they're non-branded. (Most likely they're not branded; most wholesalers seem to sell only non-branded.)
    I will update you when I hear back from him. Or, if you prefer, you can contact him, too:
    After signing in at Alibaba, go to:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12457575/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    You will see his contact information at the bottom of that page. Or, you can use the "Send Message" feature on that page.


  • FYI...I have had no luck getting any phones. The leads you have provided are not real in most cases. I am not very happy about this.


  • Funny...I didn't even realize that I was responding to someone else. Sorry about that. Why was he able to send me a comment? I thought once a question was being worked on by somebody, I thought it was "locked" from anybody else trying to answer. You have been great and I don't want to start working with anyone else at this point.
    By the way, I called the number you gave me for Dutch Mobile World and got a wrong number. I don't think they really exist.
    I don't know if this helps in any way, but a friend of mine in the UK pointed me to a website called www.gsmmobiles.com. They seem to be a retailer and the price you can buy 1 Nokia 8910i is about GBP 380 which equates to roughly US$200. Now, I am not going to sit and buy 1 phone at a time to get me to a million, but if you could figure out what wholesaler they buy from, we may be able to buy the kind of quantities we are looking for.
    Have a great Xmas and thanks again for your help.


  • Thank you, Steve, for your kind words and for the very generous tip!


  • I forgot to say: also be sure to list any problems with leads from Exporters.comSG.

    I found a verified seller at Exporters.comSG who's been awarded 10 "trust points" by other members of that site: Epic Export/Import:
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=23862

    Here is their Web site:
    http://www.tradezone.com/tradesites/calmar.html

    They are selling the 8910i with Euro specs, albeit, higher than your price range. But you may want to call them, as your very high volume may induce them to bring the price down. (Again, I believe you will have to buy from several dealers to meet your high volume and restricted budget.)
    I also found this list at Exporters.comSG:
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/search/search_members.asp?query=8910i&display=8910i

    You can see that at least three:

    "MindNeurons Pte Ltd
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=39999
    Our company has capability to do production run for Sony P900, P910 and Nokia 8910i . . . ."
    "TelElektro.Com GmbH
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/showroom.asp?co_id=36331
    Export/Import: We look for big stations at mobile-phones constantly: Nokia 6600 , Nokia 8910i ..."
    "Triple O trading
    Export/Import:Weekly physical stock of nokia 6600, 8910i, 6230, 7200. all relevant POS available." http://www.exporters.com.sg/member_profile.asp?co_id=37013

    Are rated as "active" (that is, active within the past 2 weeks), "popular," or "trusted."
    Go to this page to learn about getting a free trial membership to this site:
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/join/

    Also try calling MoBiz non-branded phones, which I found at Exporters.comSG:
    http://www.exporters.com.sg/showroom_item.asp?id=22801&v=rec
    Tel:1-866-587-5855
    Fax: 1-866-587-5855

    When I called them last week, they sounded like they were in business! Of course, I called them the day before Xmas, so, not surprisingly, no one was there.


  • I took one final spin at this and found more leads for you:

    Oceanfront Cellular:
    http://www.oceanfrontcellular.com/portal/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=47
    (Price is ?Negotiable.?)

    Nikao Mercator:
    http://www.nikaomercator.com/usedhp_wholesale.htm
    Charges $232 for the Nokia 8910i.

    Buy/Sell Mobile:
    http://www.buysellmobile.com/Offer/OfferList.asp?Search=8910i&Offer=S&location=&image.x=13&image.y=13 (Priced above your target, but some may be willing to negotiate considering volume.)
    1MobileMan:
    http://www.1mobileman.com/Nokia_Main.html
    Asks that you contact them for prices:
    http://www.1mobileman.com/contactus.html

    EC21 Marketplace directory:
    http://search3.ec21.com/search/ProductSearch.cgi?category=&resfile=&sgubun=company&from=0&keyword=8910i&country_cd=&x=24&y=2 I got 103 matches for 8910i here. You?ll see ads from distributors that also list at Alibaba, plus many new leads. Most of these distributors don?t list a price, but prefer to be contacted directly for quotes.
    Analema/Gitras:
    http://www.analema.com/main.php?pg=details.html&traID=3901&search=searchTradeID&analema=b58121c608f9d61f9177054c184fff5e E-mail: gitras@aol.com
    (Analema is based in Venezuela, but has partners in Europe)

    Gitras:
    I came across several different ads for Gitras, and they appear to have different lots of 8910is, including those with European specs, and so likely different price options. They are listed at Alibaba as a TrustPass seller: http://gitrasexport.trustpass.alibaba.com/offerdetail/12484541/Sell_Nokia_8910i_And_Sony_Ericsson_P900_And_P910i_Production_Runs.html ?By now you realize that physical stock is either a myth or prohibitively expensive in 99% of cases; go for production runs with us and save time and money! For instance, you can presently get nokia 8910i at around $290, FOB hong kong, for a minimum of 20k per month for 6 months, first delivery in 21-25 days.?
    Here?s their homepage:
    http://www.gitras.com
    The lot of 8910i Nokia phones listed at top right is out of your price range, but I urge you to contact them since they seem to work with several partners.
    TradeWinds:
    http://www.tradewinds-warriors.com/nokia.htm

    YKW Wholesale:
    http://www.ykwwholesale.co.uk/accessories/simfree.html
    http://www.ykwwholesale.co.uk/mainpages/contact.html

    You can always contact Nokia directly:
    http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,4610,00.html

    ***************************
    Verified Sellers -- Alibaba
    ***************************

    These are verified sellers I contacted to see if they can sell at your price, and in the required volume. I?ll let you know if/when I hear back and what they have to say, but as I?ve learned from other projects, many businesses are reluctant to negotiate/discuss via a 3rd party, so please feel free to go ahead and contact them directly yourself.
    Communication World (Int'l) Co., Ltd.:
    http://cworld.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50720990/Sell_Nokia_Mobile_Phone.html

    Long Xun Trading Co. (Refurbished and New)
    http://longxun.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50700537/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html
    http://www.longxunmp.com/nokia.htm
    Surindra's Carpet Cleaning, Inc.
    http://aksinc.trustpass.alibaba.com/offerdetail/12362371/Sell_Physical_And_Production_Of_Mobile_Phones.html
    Sinatech Industry (HK) Co.,Limted (But I think they just make accessories.)
    http://sinatech.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50755973/Sell_Kyocera_LCD_Samsung_LCD_LG_LCD_Nokia_LCD.html
    Dragon-Inn Communication (They seem to sell in small quantities, but could be helpful if you can get more phones elsewhere): http://dict.trustpass.alibaba.com/offerdetail/12233264/Sell_Hot_Items_Of_Mobile_Phone.html
    I have also e-mailed back Well-Faith:
    www.well-faith.com
    http://wellfaith.en.alibaba.com
    www.ec21.com/wellfaith
    E-mail: sales@well-faith.com
    Tel: +86-755-8212 9995 Fax: +86-755-8212 9901

    I asked if they are willing to negotiate their price down in consideration of such high volume. Again, they do have a percentage deposit option, so it?s possible you could swing financing with them.
    I will let you know if I hear back from any of these verified sellers and what they have to say.
    ******************************************************
    Alibaba Non-Verified Sellers, But in Your Price Range:
    ******************************************************

    These are unverified sellers, and you know what sort of luck we've been having with those. If you want, you can try your luck with them since they do sell at low prices.
    JND Marketing:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12445153/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html

    Computer Discount
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12473259/Sell_Nokia_6600_6630_7650_8910i_And_More.html
    Skan:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12467467/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html

    Delta Technologies Korea
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12435461/Sell_Nokia_Production_For_8910i_P900_P910i.html
    Harbert Store (U.S.):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12484334/Sell_Brand_New_Mobile_Phones.html

    Inkteh Corporation
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12484420/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    Just Phone's
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12481994/Sell_Phones.html

    Bradshaw Ed.Inc.
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12479796/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    InfoTele
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12474005/Sell_Mobile_Phones_At_Very_Good_Prices.html
    Terra Group:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12452607/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    Global United Company
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12376059/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    KWK Technic Co., Ltd
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12424205/Sell_All_Kinds_Of_Mobile_Phone.htm

    Charlie Setliff.Co.Inc
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12445226/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    Panyan International Trade Co., Ltd.
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12445093/Sell_Nokia_Motorola_Sony_Mobile_Phones.html (Price negotiable.)

    Rigano Company Limited
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12445767/Sell_Nokia_Phone.html
    (Price not given.)

    Mobile Mogul
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12417837/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html

    I really do hope some of these leads work out.

    I greatly regret the stress and frustration we?ve both been through. But frankly, not only do I think your price target may be unrealistic (it?s very hard to find these phones below $300+, even in large stocks), you should have told me upfront ? or, at least very early in the Clarification process -- just how rampant fraud is in this business.
    I had no idea fraud was such a widespread problem with mobile phone distributors and, if I had, to be honest, I likely would have dropped this project, but another researcher might have picked it up. We researchers need to be aware of caveats and potential potholes in any project we handle. The more you tell us, the better we can perform. (Although, in situations like this, all we can do is locate dealers; there isn?t much we can do to check them out. We do the best we can to provide as many leads/options as we can.)
    I do hope you?ll come back to Google Answers, but please give as much information as you can when posting a question.
    Please also understand that with business-related questions, we researchers understand that clients want us to get as much information as possible, but businesses are often reluctant to discuss discounts, payment plans, etc., with us, preferring to talk directly to the would-be client.


  • Hello Steve!

    I'm wondering if you can comment on the Nevracom Company in Romania.
    Were they bona fide or just another scammer?


  • I will be glad to contact gsmobiles.com first thing next week -- thank you for that tip. By then, I also expect to hear back from the dealers I contacted today.
    Thank you for your kind remarks. I certainly will do everything I can to find a supplier who can meet your needs.
    Merry Christmas,
    nancylynn-ga


  • Steve, spare yourself having to go through all the new leads!

    Look at my two prior clarifications (up above this one -- this page is now getting messy!). Distributor Joel Woodman can sell you the one million phones at under your target price. I have spoken to him, and his terms are excellent!
    Please contact him, as I've outlined, via Alibaba. He's waiting to hear from you.


  • Let me try and clarify what I mean by "non-branded". For us, a branded phone is one that has the wireless carrier branded on it like Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon. If it says Nokia on the phone, that is ok.
    The biggest hurdle for us is the price. I will try calling the Dutch Mobile World contact tomorrow and will let you know how I make out.
    I hope this clarifies what I mean by "non-branded". You are doing a great job! Thanks again.


  • Steve:

    I am VERY sorry about that last lead. However, let's get clear: you never asked me to "weed through them." I have found over 200 sellers; I can't possibly weed through them all. At one point you even asked me to just list sellers in your price range as an answer and I didn't do that because I didn't have faith in that batch of leads. What I posted as an answer honestly seemed to me more solid.
    While I have no doubt that some of the leads I gave you are duds, out of the 147 sellers at Alibaba alone -- and the more than 200 total, overall I've given you -- it just seems that a hefty percentage would be perfectly reputable and reasonable. (I can't imagine Forbes endorsing Alibaba if it's truly laden with fraudulent or outrageous sellers!)
    To avoid questionable dealers, *contact only* the Gold Suppliers or TrustPass sellers. If none of them are selling at $255 or below, it may be that that price simply isn't feasible.
    So, please try these verified dealers:

    XPLORER PACIFIC:
    http://anthonylck.trustpass.alibaba.com/offerdetail/12331587/Sell_font_color_red_Nokia_font_font_color_red_8910i_font_.html is a TrustPass seller

    Shenhzen:
    http://commworks.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50829009/Sell_Nokia_8910i_Brand_New.html is a Gold Supplier

    Well-Faith is priced slightly above your target range, but you can pay just a deposit upfront, meaning you may be able to make a deal with them, and they are a TrustPass seller, meaning they are verified trustworthy. http://wellfaith.en.alibaba.com
    They will take a deposit on some orders: "20% deposit in advance & the rest upon forwarder inspection report for bulk order (+500sets per order)." Is it possible that you and your partner could swing that? At least you'd know you were dealing with someone reputable.
    Other Gold Suppliers and TrustPass suppliers of Nokia 8910i:

    http://wellfaith.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50696809/Sell_Mobile_Phone_Nokia_8910i.html
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12468758/8910i_Stock_Available_Jan_10_2005.html

    http://longxun.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50707829/Sell_Nokia_8910i.html

    http://hollysun.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50736750/Sell_Mobile_Phones_Nokia_8910i.html
    http://memorit.en.alibaba.com/offerdetail/50827555/Sell_Mobile_Phone_Nokia_8910i.html
    Also, please try Samaritan International World Traders (They're covered by Dunn & Bradstreet, so they must be legit): http://www.eceurope.com/tradeleads/details.htm?session=&searchwords=&latest=&country=&stars=&all=&bodies=&subcat=695&bidID=1506660&type=Sell&m=1 (You can request a quote from them via that page.)

    If these sellers are above your price range, perhaps you and your partner can re-work the deal to allow for a smaller number of phones; or make arrangements with one of these dealers to pay less upfront.
    And Try:

    IarisInc SL
    http://www.worldtradeaa.com/app/OnlineDirectory/company_main.htm?member_id=WAA200403558202&id_1=&ind=&template= Simplius:
    http://www.worldtradeaa.com/app/OnlineDirectory/company_main.htm?member_id=WAA200406574312&id_1=&ind=&template= Both of which look promising.

    I am sorry this has been such a struggle. The leads I've just re-listed seem to be the most legit and most promising. Please also post a Want ad at Alibaba and at the other trade sites I listed for you on Dec. 30th. Aside from contacting the above dealers, posting such an ad is the best way for you to make a match with a reputable dealer who is selling in your price range. Also keep searching Alibaba for "8910i" sellers (new ads are posted all the time), but contact only the verified sellers.
    If none of these leads works out, I urge you to then get back to me and I will assist you in applying for a refund. (You have until January 25 to apply.) I don't want you to end up without the phones AND feeling that you've thrown away your money.
    Again, I am sorry that we've both had to struggle so much. I had no idea the cell phone business was this dicey!


  • Hi Steve:

    This is long, and I apologize for that. First, let's start with new leads.

    Good timing! Just as I was posting this, I heard back from Well-Faith (a lead I'd given you earlier), whom I'd contacted this evening via Alibaba, where they are a "TrustPass" verified seller: http://wellfaith.en.alibaba.com

    This is interesting! You may want to talk to them. Even though they are slightly above your price range, they will take a deposit on some orders: "20% deposit in advance & the rest upon forwarder inspection report for bulk order (+500sets per order)." So, that lead may work out for you, after all!
    If you contact the contact person I did via Alibaba, she should be able to explain those details to you. Use the "Inquire Now" form.
    Here two are *unverified* dealers from Alibaba, but you may want to try them:

    New Leads (At, or below, your target price):

    Joel Woodman:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12457575/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html
    I have e-mailed him via Alibaba, but you may want to call him (His number is at that page; he's in the U.S.). He sells phones globally, including the Nokia 8910i, which he has priced at $140.
    Electronics Heaven:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12471416/Sell_Nokia_6600_6630_7650_8910i_And_More.html Sells in lots of 100, sells Nokia 8910 at $180. (Again, you will likely have to patch together one million from a number of dealers.)
    IarisInc SL in Madrid, Spain, is selling the 8910i at $190, but I'm not sure of their quantity: http://www.worldtradeaa.com/app/OnlineDirectory/company_main.htm?member_id=WAA200403558202&id_1=&ind=&template=
    Simplius, in China, is selling the 8910i at $223:
    http://www.worldtradeaa.com/app/OnlineDirectory/company_main.htm?member_id=WAA200406574312&id_1=&ind=&template= (They discount for large orders.)

    Here are some trade sites I found tonight where you can search ads and post ads. You may be able to hook up with suppliers at these sites:
    ECeurope International Trade Leads:
    http://www.eceurope.com/tradeleads/view.htm?session=&subcat=695&type=Buy&scs=1
    http://www.eceurope.com/tradeleads/view.htm?session=&type=Sell&catID=1057&subcat=695&searchwords=&latest=&userID=&country=&stars=&all=&bodies=§or=
    Be sure to check this ad from Samaritan International World Traders (They're covered by Dunn & Bradstreet, so must be legit): http://www.eceurope.com/tradeleads/details.htm?session=&searchwords=&latest=&country=&stars=&all=&bodies=&subcat=695&bidID=1506660&type=Sell&m=1 (You can request a quote from them via that page.)

    WorldTradeAA Directory (Free membership):
    http://www.worldtradeaa.com/
    In the box at top type in "Nokia 8910i" to bring up leads from sellers and buyers. Be sure to run that search from that page under all three categories: "Trade Leads"; e-Catalog; Company Directory.
    TCC Private Limited:
    http://www.tcc-globaltrade.com/international-trade/index.asp

    Trade Leads from Bizviet for the 8910i (74 hits on 2 pages; varying stocks, prices, one company can do production runs): http://www.bizviet.net/?mode=loc

    Try posting an ad at Wholesale Wireless World:
    http://www.cellulardealermarket.com/
    This company is offering 8910i, but I'm not sure what their price is:
    http://www.wholesalewirelessworld.com/detail.asp?id=70056

    Try posting at Nokia Wholesale at Cell-Phone Forum:
    http://www.cell-phone-plans.net/forum/Buy_Sell_Trade_Forums_C5/GSM_Phone_Buy_Sell_Trade_F36/Nokia_wholesale_P764/
    And at the GSM Wholesale Trading Board:
    http://p068.ezboard.com/fgsmwholesaletradingboardfrm7

    Place an ad to buy at the Federation of International Trade Associations (members there are rated, much like eBay, so that should help reduce the chances of fraud): http://fita.worldbid.com/tradeleads/view.htm?session=&type=Buy&catID=1057&subcat=46&searchwords=&latest=&userID=&country=&stars=&all=&bodies=§or=
    The Telecommunication Equipments & Components (India Trade Portal):
    http://trade.indiamart.com/offer/telecom-products/telecommunication-equipment/buy2.html
    WorldBid:
    http://www.worldbiditaly.com/index.htm?session=&
    You can post at cell pages:
    http://www.worldbiditaly.com/tradeleads/view.htm?session=&subcat=695&type=Buy

    OK, getting to the clarification you posted tonight: You wrote, "In each case, the leads turn out to be fake or they are unwilling to sell the phones at my price. The US $255 price per unit is a big hurdle."
    Let's break down the problems you're having:

    Pricing:

    I need to be clear: is the problem more with "fake leads," or is it more that the $215-$255 is proving to be an unrealistic price?
    As I said in my Answer, during my research I found that the standard price for the 8910i, with Euro specs, is *roughly* $360, so you'll likely have to buy from an amalgam of sellers in order to get to a million phones on-budget. (Since beginning work on your question last week, I have found a grand total of only about 6 or 7 dealers who sell in your price range. Hopefully, at least one can sell you a high number at a low price, so that you can make up the volume elsewhere at a higher price.)
    Is it possible that -- now that you've talked to some *legit* dealers (such as Alibaba's verified "Gold Supplier" and "Trustpass" dealers) -- you're realizing you and your partner were mislead into thinking you could get one million of these phones at $215-$255 each?
    If so, I respectfully suggest that you and your partner re-think your venture and either go with fewer phones, or arrange for additional financing. (Easy for me to say, I know.)
    Fake Leads:

    Are the "fake leads" you mentioned among the *verified* dealers at Alibaba, B2B, and Exporters.comSG?
    Please go back and look at the companies I listed in my Clarifications posted on Dec. 29th. Are you having trouble contacting those companies? Are their phone numbers fake, e.g. you're getting "This number is no longer in service" recordings, etc.? Those are verified sellers, so if they're providing phony information, I'd like to know so I can let the trading sites know.
    Alibaba's verified ("Gold Supplier" and "Trustpass") dealers are reputable; they have been cleared by credit rating agencies. Furthermore, no less an authority than Forbes Magazine cites Alibaba as one of the best business sites on the Web. So, if *verified dealers* at Alibaba are suspicious, I want to report that to Alibaba! (I believe Alibaba is reputable, will be inclined to take such complaints about verified sellers seriously, and will try to help us.)
    Also, are you using a free e-mail address, such as Yahoo or Hotmail? This can cause problems at Alibaba, and possibly at the other sites, too. (Some business people won't even respond to anyone with such an e-mail address.) You might want to try editing your accounts at those sites and list a different e-mail address for yourself.
    (Another consideration: some of these dealers are in Asia, and even if they're not in areas directly affected by the tsunami, they may well be having phone and power interruptions.)
    Want Ad:

    Another resource at Alibaba that I'd mentioned was posting a "Want" ad:

    At Alibaba's main page:
    http://www.alibaba.com/
    When I enter the search term "8910i" under "selling leads," I'm coming up with 147 sellers, and many of them are marked "Gold Supplier" or "Trustpass." That's a lot of sellers.
    Did you post a trade lead at Alibaba? You can post an ad specifying your needs and price, so that some of those 147 sellers come to you: http://nokia_8910i.importer.alibaba.com

    I urge you to post an ad there (and at the sites I found for you tonight -- listed above). It's free, and I have to think at least a few Nokia dealers will contact you! (If they don't, that may be proof positive that you simply can't get one million 8910is for $255 each. Not pleasant, but at least it will let you know where you stand.)
    I had listed two sellers who sell at, or below, your target. Quoting from my Answer:
    "Tyce (UK):
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12449315/Sell_Mobile_Phones.html
    Is selling model 8910i at $140 per unit, but I?m not sure that they
    have a large stock.

    Nevracom SRL (Romania):
    They have large stocks of 8910i, selling at $220 per unit. Offer
    Expires January 5th:
    http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/12423078/Sell_Mobile_Phones_Supplier_Big_Stocks_.html ?8910i - on 220 USD/unit?

    After you registered at Alibaba, did your inquiries to those two dealers bounce back to you, or did they not respond to phone messages, etc? (Neither is a verified seller, but if you're having problems with them, I will cite them specifically when I contact Alibaba.)
    I am sorry you're having a tough time. But I have to think that if reputable dealers are telling you that your price target is unrealistic, that you're going to have to make a readjustment: either modify the deal and buy fewer phones; reconcile yourselves to buying from multiple dealers to stay within budget, or arrange for more financing for this deal.
    Btw, I am trying to contact some of Alibaba's sellers myself, but, of course, I don't expect to hear back until early next week.
    I hope the discount sellers I found in tonight's search can come through for you, or that you have luck posting ads at the other sites I just found for you! If these new leads fail, and if we don't get anywhere with the trade sites previously listed, you can apply for a refund (but I can't guarantee it will be granted): ://www.google.com/answers/help.html
    Scroll down to "Ask For A Refund."

    I hope some of the new leads I've given you work out. I'll check back in with you again next week.


  • "Thank you so much for your effort on this. I would be glad to discuss even buying 100,000 phones right now. I would gladly pay for the few dealers you have found right now that have phones available at my price point."
    OK. Let me see if I can round up a few more dealers for you. Actually, I think you're going to have to call them anyway (and two are in Europe, so I really can't call them), and at least one prefers to negotiate price.
    I'll post what I've found for you either late tonight or tomorrow.

    I apologize for the delay in responding to you. There is bad weather in the region where I reside. and it's caused some power outages today.
    Regards,
    nancylynn-ga


  • The most I can pay is $223. I know that is a strange number but there is only so much I can pay. I am willing to buy from multiple sources to get me to the number I need. Please keep in mind that I need these phones to be non-branded phones. Thanks for your help with this.









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